I agree that you should contact the CO or DO, this definitely sounds like a scam.. You could ask to see the letter from the Society if there is one, you could say that you just want to 'make sure of all things', as nobody should ever be expected to give money to an unknown cause.
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Elder and MS Extortion!
by jw07 inthe elders and ministerial servants at my hall were asked to attend a strange meeting last night.
the society is asking for our help to raise $10,200.
they are seeking to raise this money in april from elders and ministerial servants in our circuit only.
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AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)
by cedars inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.
http://www.jwactivists.org.
facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.
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I admire your determination, but I have 2 questions.. How specifically does it benefit Exjw's to have an organisation, and how will any donations be used? I fail to see how even a large organisation who oppose the Watchtower could hope to peacefully talk 8 men who think they have God behind them into changing their views.. I can imagine them spinning all of this as 'gog gathering his crowd to try to attack jehovahs people', furthering their goal of having jw's think that Satan is out to get them..
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Is this a religion of HATE? Check out what they have printed!
by Terry in"" (the watchtower, 6/15 1995, p. 4).
" (the watchtower, 11/15 1952, p. 703).
" (the watchtower, 10/1 1952, p. 599).
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Finkelstein said:"Hate children" -- Sorry, but where do you get this idea from? Sounds a bit extreme to me. I agree with most of your list apart from that, seeing as you defined 'hate women' as 'demean them' which is pretty much the same.. I've seen women shouted at/counselled for interfering near sound area/holding papers meant for men..
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Is this a religion of HATE? Check out what they have printed!
by Terry in"" (the watchtower, 6/15 1995, p. 4).
" (the watchtower, 11/15 1952, p. 703).
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"By disfellowshipping somebody this religion turns them into somebody to be hated" -- Only hated if they were Df'd for apostasy.. I know people who are df'd that nobody hates, unless there's a connection that I'm not seeing? Not criticising, just saying you might need a quote about people who don't return are to be destroyed, just to tie things together..
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Is this a religion of HATE? Check out what they have printed!
by Terry in"" (the watchtower, 6/15 1995, p. 4).
" (the watchtower, 11/15 1952, p. 703).
" (the watchtower, 10/1 1952, p. 599).
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I don't see what that story of molestation has to do with the topic?? Anyway, not all people who are disfellowshipped are considered to be haters of God, so your comparison of the 'hate opposers/dfing is a loving act' philosophy of Jw's using that old quote doesn't seem to be very logical, to me anyway. Better to focus on the hatred towards people who change beliefs and are labelled 'apostate' , IMO. The quote about opposers being bird food is disturbing, though, and an excellent example that makes them sound like an insane cult.. Even more so when I consider that I was brought up hearing such statements in talks without really reacting/thinking about it.
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Jehovah is loving
by The Quiet One in17 "because you have sinned against the lord, iwill make you as helpless as a blind man searching for a path.your blood will be poured out into the dust, and your bodies will lie there rotting on the ground.
" 18 your silver and gold will be of no use to you onthat day of the lord's anger.
for the whole land will be devoured by the fire of his jealousy.
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Genesis 6:7 "And the LORD said,I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air"
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New light Watchtower magazine leaked from organization weeks ahead of general release
by cedars inhttp://jwsurvey.org/governing-body-2/new-light-watchtower-magazine-leaked-from-organization-weeks-ahead-of-general-release.
if doctrinal explanations are missing from the article, it is because they are also missing from the magazine.. i would like to give my thanks again to my source for supplying me with the magazine article weeks ahead of its scheduled release.
it showed remarkable courage, because risks were taken.
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I'd suggest only mentioning them distancing themselves from Russell, because Rutherford is still part of the FDS in the new understanding. It might just make the impact a tad greater if you focus on his best teachings (core doctrines such as hellfire etc) and get her to think that they'd never say he's not Faithful Slave .. Good idea, though.
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Theists, why does God allow suffering..
by The Quiet One in..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
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Any further thoughts on this?
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Jehovah is loving
by The Quiet One in17 "because you have sinned against the lord, iwill make you as helpless as a blind man searching for a path.your blood will be poured out into the dust, and your bodies will lie there rotting on the ground.
" 18 your silver and gold will be of no use to you onthat day of the lord's anger.
for the whole land will be devoured by the fire of his jealousy.
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Psalm 145:8 New International Version (©2011) '' The LORD is gracious and compassionate,slow to anger and rich in love. ''
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Jehovah is loving
by The Quiet One in17 "because you have sinned against the lord, iwill make you as helpless as a blind man searching for a path.your blood will be poured out into the dust, and your bodies will lie there rotting on the ground.
" 18 your silver and gold will be of no use to you onthat day of the lord's anger.
for the whole land will be devoured by the fire of his jealousy.
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Any other examples?